Posts by Nathan Natas

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I chuckle whenever I think of this

by Nathan Natas in

about a month ago magnum posted an incident he recalled from his time in the borg... i've copied and pasted it below:.

magnum .

that was one of the most frustrating, irritating things to me in jwdom over my several decades in.

I chuckle whenever I think of this

by Nathan Natas in

about a month ago magnum posted an incident he recalled from his time in the borg... i've copied and pasted it below:.

magnum .

that was one of the most frustrating, irritating things to me in jwdom over my several decades in.

Nathan Natas

About a month ago MAGNUM posted an incident he recalled from his time in the Borg... I've copied and pasted it below:

Magnum

That was one of the most frustrating, irritating things to me in JWdom over my several decades in. Many elders were clueless. They often taught things that contradicted JW doctrine. Many times, they had no idea what was going on. I could relate many stories. I will mention one now.

In the late 80's, I and my wife met for service one morning at the Kingdom Hall. The group was small - just the two of us and maybe eight to ten others. I can still picture it and even remember where we were sitting (back two rows on the rear left of the KH).

The PO, who was also a regular pioneer, stood in an aisle and conducted the meeting. He was retired; probably about 60. His meeting consisted of considering the daily text. The comments on the text for that day mentioned Paul's having been involved in Judaism. The PO said "Paul must have been humble because I imagine if he wanted to he could have [at this point he made karate-like motions with his hands] chopped opposers up."

My wife and I, to this day, still mention that from time to time. The only thing we can figure is that the PO was thinking of Judo and he thought that Judaism was like some kind or Eastern martial art. And that wasn't just an isolated incident with him.

That one was a doozy. Most of the problems were less sensational and had to do with chronic lack of comprehension, lack of ability to teach, ignorance, and, often, just plain old lack of computing power.

I was ROTFLing with that, and XJWs I know also found it riotously funny.

A few days ago, during my daily oblations, I was led by the Magic Spirit to this scripture -

"I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers." — Galatians 1:14

...and once again found myself on the floor, overflowing with joy.

"Judoism"

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Jehovah's Witnesses: A Clear Decline

by Hadriel in

it is rather clear that the internet is to put it mildly, wrecking the world of the watchtower bible & tract society.

if not for foreign language i doubt there would be much growth at all.. digital trends and analytics are very real.

i live this analytics world i assure you to some degree you can take it to the bank.

Nathan Natas

done4good asked two questions:

Q1.: Why is it every time this is discussed, people take either extreme?

A1.: Because that is how conversations work. If everyone thought the same, no discussion board would be necessary; see the invisible discussion board at JW.ORG as an example.

Q2.: Neither extreme is correct. [?]

A2.: According to Schrödinger's Witnesses, this is not only correct, but necessary.

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Elders & Ex Elders

by brandnew in

jw
friends

i have a question.....if two jw have sex and only one of them goes to the eldurrs and confesses.....do they both get busted?

or does the boe need a confession from both people.?

if one of em denies it happened will that person still get df'd?.

Nathan Natas

Fencing coined a NEW PHRASE -- "Quantum states of sin"

I LIKE it! I LIKE it!

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THE SHADOW OF '75

by Terry in

few of your are old enough to have been there, i suspect.

i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.. .

i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.

Nathan Natas

Accidentally duplicated posts can be removed by FLAGGING the thread and making your request using that tool.

Other methods are just fooling around.

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Left Bethel to get married and have children, found the TTATT instead

by jehobi in

long story, short story.

grew up on a farm, went to bethel, married a sister and left bethel.

found ttatt after my cousin died refusing a blood transfusion.

Nathan Natas

Well, I'm sure your experience was at least a little bit more intense than your synopsis makes it seem, but you get bonus points for not embellishing the story in any way.

I'm sorry you went through this and look forward to additional posts by you.

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Elders & Ex Elders

by brandnew in

jw
friends

i have a question.....if two jw have sex and only one of them goes to the eldurrs and confesses.....do they both get busted?

or does the boe need a confession from both people.?

if one of em denies it happened will that person still get df'd?.

Nathan Natas

Years and years ago, before I had any idea that I would be exiting the WTB&TS, there was this fellow I knew in my congregation and this VERY attractive girl who thought it would be a grand idea to bump uglies in secret one time. Both kids had elder parents but in different congregations. She got a warning, he was disfellowshipped.

For HIM, this was the best of all possible outcomes. His parents, enraged over the unfair treatment of their Dear Boy, left the WTB&TS along with their son.

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What Happens To You When You Die?

by minimus in

jw
friends

are our dead loved ones watching over us at all or are they really just gone now?

Nathan Natas

Q.: What Happens To You When You Die?

A.: You leave your family wondering why you didn't have the foresight to prepare a will.

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Jehovah's Witnesses: A Clear Decline

by Hadriel in

it is rather clear that the internet is to put it mildly, wrecking the world of the watchtower bible & tract society.

if not for foreign language i doubt there would be much growth at all.. digital trends and analytics are very real.

i live this analytics world i assure you to some degree you can take it to the bank.

Nathan Natas

Have you ever heard of the Shakers; the Amish; the Mennonites? Just a few examples of extinct religions that aren't extinct.

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The Curious Case Of Brother B

by pale.emperor in

there was a case in my old congregation that is shrouded in mystery that i'd like to share and get your views.

this is something i've wanted to talk about for years but it's strongly shot down if you even try to talk about it in my old congregation.. it involves a certain brother b.. in my old congregation this brother was well liked.

as a kid, we all knew him for being fascinated with dinosaurs.

Nathan Natas

If you really are looking for ANSWERS, what makes you think you will find them HERE?

If the mysterious Brother B is still alive, look him up and seek a meeting with him. Buy him dinner. Ask him to tell you his story in his own words for the sake of posterity.

There are SO MANY people I now wish I had talked with 30 years ago who are dead now, and my OUIJA board gets their messages all messed up; they can't even remember what their favorite color was.